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Has anyone used a gas generator with an electric trolling motor?
I have a 12' jon boat and an electric trolling motor but no battery. I'm thinking of 2 options to power the trolling motor:
1) DEEP CYCLE BATTERY
- conventional option
- expensive (need to buy battery, charger, battery monitor)
- heavy (long lasting battery weigh 70lb+)
- limited time of use (should only use battery up to 50% of charge)
- quiet
2) GAS GENERATOR
- unconventional
- not as expensive (less then $130 for 1000W generator)
- not as heavy (around 50lb)
- unlimited time of use (just add gas)
- noisy (60db - same level of noise as normal conversation)
Any thoughts, comments, opinions?
It doesn't work in practice. The trolling motor may require four or five times the 12 V output of a little gen set like that just to run at half output. The current limiter will be lucky to give you 5 amps of supply from the low voltage unregulated output (typical output is well over 22 V without load). If you need to run a converter between the AC output and the trolling motor then you will find the expense and complication - and the losses - make it pretty well not worth it. In fact for many years the Battery only option has proven to be reliable and dependable if done right. An observation is that to smooth out the power supply to the motor from an unregulated suppy you would use a battery as a damper.....which kind of defeats the purpose.
If you buy a cheap gen set and it is rated at 1000W - that is the maximum short term capacity. In practice you will only reliably achieve a load around 700 watts continuous without pushing the alternator windings into overheating. To use a direct coupled alternator @ 12V will still require 6 hp at least to give a maximum output of less than 40 amps - so you are looking at a gen system that may need to be several models larger to be able to provide the power you need, and you are creating a lot of expense and complication to get a lesser result than sticking to the original battery idea.
The theory is good - but the details tend to reduce it to impractical real world levels.
And for those who wish to tell me they run 2500 watt loads off these little Chinese throw-away gen sets - sorry it can't happen. I can show you the burnt out panel saws and drills caused by ignorance on basic physics.
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